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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: welcome to "the young turks," everybody. now texas district attorney mike mcclelland had a tough message for those who murdered his colleague. >> i hope the people who did this are watching because we're very confident that we're going to find you. >> cenk: unfortunately, they might have found him first. he was killed with his wife today. who in the world is killing the d.a.'s in texas? really interesting topic. we'll start with in a in a little bit. are we really going to go to
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war with north korea? [ gunfire ] >> cenk: that's an insane propaganda tape of north korea. it's not going to help them if we go to war. but it would be a disaster. we'll decide later today on "the young turks" whether we're going to go to war or not. we'll discuss it at least. we have too many kids ticking pills for adhd, and a gruesome tape of the injury of a basketball player. >> oh my goodness, that is a gruesome looking injury to kevin warae. >> cenk: we'll sky to show it or not show it. it's go time.
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: now what in the world is going on in texas? two months ago we had an assistant district attorney who was shot there and killed. and now over the week texas district attorney mike mcclelland and his wife cynthia were murdered saturday. who are doing these murders, and why are they doing it, that's an interesting question. let's go to a worship from "abc news" explaining the murders a little bit. >> following the murder of another prosecutor in texas guards with semiautomatic weapons are patrolling texas courthouses today. >> this is more than a county dense. >> mike mcclelland and his wife cynthia were found dead. the killer reportedly kicked in their door and fired rounds of a
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semi assault weapon. >> cenk: it was related to this case possibly. >> two months earlier assistant district attorney was murdered. >> i hope the people who did this are watching because we're very confident that we're going to find you. >> law enforcement is trying to determine if there is a link between the two cases. >> cenk: now, some americans are used to hearing stories out of mexico of about how the police and prosecutors are intimidateed by criminals and the gangs. we're not used to that here in the united states. it's a fascinating new phenomenon. in this case it might not be drug gangs. it might be white supremacists. let's talk talk with mark from montgomery alabama.
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any reason why people are speculating this is white supremacists? >> yes, i do have a sense of it. the chronology of it there has been a major effort by prosecutors in texas to smash the aryan brotherhood of texas which has become arguably the most violent white supremacist group in america claiming 100 murders and 10 kidnappings since it was formed in the 1980s. last november there was a huge racketeering indictment against four of it's so called generals, it's leaders. a month later is when the department of public safety of texas put out a warning to prosecutors saying they had intelligence that leading members of the abt were planning massive retaliation against public officials and in
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particular officials. there was a murder in execution-style killing as he got out of his car to go to work at the county courthouse at 9:00 in the morning. two months later after mike mcclelland's provocative comments that we're going to find you scums and pull you out of your holes mike mcclelland and his wife cynthia were killed with the door smashed in, with the use of an semiautomatic weapon. we don't no know that this is the aryan brotherhood of texas. the investigations are stepped up in a huge way now. >> cenk: there is another group called the 211 crew of colorado.
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i want to show a video of that and discuss that as well. >> a member of a white supremacist prison gang called the 211 crew. there are continue tens of thousands of white supremacists in prison. they sell drugs run guns, and it's all orchestrated from behind bars by shot collars who use elaborate code. >> cenk: now mark, are they related to the aryan brotherhood of texas in any loose way, or are they two separate organizations. >> no, they're completely different organizations. aryan brotherhood of texas is a regional organization that is not related to aryan brotherhood is a completely separate national gang. the 211 crew is based in the colorado prisons pretty much exclusively. but there are similarities that are intriguing.
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they're both heavy in running drugs, particularly methamphetamine, which the white supremacist versus specialized in over the last couple of years, and they're in territories. i have absolutely no information to suggest that some how these killings are linked. but they are essentially neighbors. it is conceivable that they made some kind of alliance, that they may even have decided to help each other out. both these gangs are very much facing crackdowns by law enforcement both in texas and colorado. as i say, it is conceivable that they have enlisted the help of members of each other's gangs. what we know is that the killer of tom cléments the director of the department of corrections in colorado was killed by a man named ebl, a member of the 211 crew. we say that because after ebel
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was killed a couple of days after the murder of tom clément in a shootout with police, they found that his weapon was the same weapon that killed clemens. finally in the shootout with police ebel was a mere hundred miles from can you kauffman, texas. i know kauffman county. it's a surprising coincidence that kauffman would have ended up there. >> cenk: mark, is this weird phenomenon. i know white supremacist groups have increased during the obama administration. we can talk about that as well. but they're not a very large percentage of the population, but they're a huge percentage of the prison population. what is going on there? what is it that the rest of us in society don't understand why they're so big in prison.
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>> what happened is in the early 1960s officials around the country began for the first time really began to desegregate prisons. that led to a fair amount of interracial violence which in turn led to the creation of the first racially based prison gangs. the first one in the country was the aryan brotherhood which was started in san quinton in 1964. the populations of the prisons are pretty much mixed up and most inmates, a large number of them who are serving any amount of time at all have organized themselves in a race-based gangs primarily as a way to protect themselves. the white inmates group together to stop themselves from being attacked or raped by black inmates, vice versa. what has really happened is these groups have become major criminal enterprises. increasingly they're operating not only inside the prisons but
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outside the prisons. both the 211 crew and the aryan brotherhood of texas are increasingly out there on the streets, and what is remarkable is that they their criminal enterprises are almost entirely run by leaders or shot callers inside the prisons but nevertheless getting their messages out through written codes, verbal codes and other messages. >> cenk: whenever i hear these prison stories i'm amazed. so if you don't join the aryan brotherhood and you're white in prison, are you in a world of trouble? does that drive more people to join the aryan brotherhood and does that lead to more outside of the prison because of the growing gang inside of prison. >> yes many go into prison without any racist feelings, but are terrified when they go into prison. winds up hooking up with one of these groups as a matter of self
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protection and oftentimes comes out of prison serious racists. the other thing that has changed is that in years past you could join these gangs in prison, and very often simply get out of prisonrison door. that is now much less true. many of these gangs including the aryan brotherhood of texas and in particular the 211 crew insist that members who leave prison continue to work for them, continue quote/unquote earning on the streets engaging in crime and send the proceeds back to their leaders who are amazingly adept at run of these operations. doing things even like organizing a hit of someone outside of the prison from their prison cells even from solitary confinement. >> cenk: it's scary, and i hope it doesn't become a trend. mark potok thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> cenk: they told us, don't worry about oil spills.
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they are they've already built the southern half and they're thinking about building the northern half. and guess what, the oil like what happened over the weekend, we oftentimes get bad spills. >> the spill is unbelievable. i mean, look. incredible. [ ♪ music ♪ ] guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking?
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problems over the weekend abc has the report on that. this easter sunday it 2 22 families are out of their homes as crud oil spilled on toed. >> we were told to pack for two days. it would be cleaned up. again we were told just this morning to pack for a week. >> exxon mobile 800-mile pegasus pipeline broke friday as canadian crude oil from illinois to texas. the spill has refueled concerns about pipeline like the controversial keystone pipeline which would transport oil from illinois to texas. >> cenk: they're bringing it down from illinois to texas because it's coming down to canada, and exporting it out of the country. when you hear, oh, energy independence, nonsense. this is all about making money for exxon mobile. they're sending it to different parts of the world.
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if it blows up while it's on our territory, bad day for us. exxon oil has said they've gathered 12,000 gallons of oil from this blow up, and when you look at footage you get a better sense of the damage that it has caused. >> that is a pipeline that has busted and it has flooded the neighborhood and it's going all the way to the drain at the end of the street. the smell is unbelievable. i mean, look, incredible. >> cenk: how would you like that on your front door. a lot of us might get more of that if we bring the canadian crude oil that can't hand it will. let's bring in lena from the sierra club. what assurance do we have that the keystone pipeline would be
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better than this. did they say it would be newer can handle crude oil better? what's their argument. >> thanks for having me on, i appreciate it. yes, big oil makes a lot of promises but really the question is when keystone would spill not if. their first pipeline keystone one estimated it would spill one time and it has spilled 14 times. really we have no guarantee. we think it's an inevitability that these pipelines will spill, and we're seeing the disastrous impact of that in arkansas today. >> cenk: they were fine with the pegasus spill of the pipeline as in was happening virtually in the same week. exxon mobile said, hey we're going to clean it up, and then it seems like it's gone in a week or so. how do you any the charge, no big deal. we'll compensate the people in the area.
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let's keep the oil moving. >> over the past decade our country has seen some of the most disastrous oil spills we've experienced. even regular oil spills are very difficult to clean up. what we're talking about with this pegasus pipeline and what would be running through keystone excel is not regular oil, it's worse, it's tar sands oil. it's not only is it the most carbon intensive source of oil on the planet. it's dangerous to transport and even harder to clean up. we saw the kalamazoo spill when an enbridge pipeline spilled into the kalamazoo river in michigan and they still haven't cleaned that up. tar sand oil is almost impossible to clean up. this is a very big deal, and this is a threat looming on the
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horizon in even bigger form. >> cenk: and they managed to avert bigger problems because of first responders. but americans and their support of keystone you can see it's overwhelming. 68% approve and 26% can want to deny the pipeline. they think there are jobs involved, and we have to have the energy and all that, how do you respond to those numbers? >> i'll respond to one of your points about energy independence. we've seen keystone pipeline is through america not to america. it will then be exported out of the country. the united states does not need this oil and its support from overwhelming support from americans for solutions like the new vehicle efficientcy standards that the obama administration just finalized we don't need
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this oil. some of the polling that our side has done shows that when americans are educated just a little bit with the few talking points on how disastrous the impact of tar sands can be, they switch sides and oppose keystone excel. >> cenk: when you look at the vote that happened on friday. this is a symbolic vote. the president will get to decide but in the senate they supported 62-37 in favor of keystone pipeline as well. is this an indication of which way the president will go when he sees the poll numbers and the senate vote, will he approve keystone pipeline? >> well, i certainly hope not. i think the president has a real opportunity to inspire a generation who wants him to take action on climate change like he committed to doing and reject keystone excel. in know way would i take the senate vote 62-37 supporting keystone as an indication of the american public. i think we saw those senators who supported that amendment took three and a half times more
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money from the oil industry than the average senator did. this is big oil. they're very well-funded interested in congress and supporting their pet projects. the u.s. senate and congress has no business rubber stamping the american petroleum institute's pet projects. we want to see action on climate change, real solutions and not these dangerous and polluting pipelines that we don't need. >> cenk: lena, you're shocking me all over.. wow, that is surprising, indeed. and they took three and a half times more money from oil and gas than other senators. >> yes, we're seeing it on the house side well. you see lee terry from nebraska reintroduce his legislation that would actually allow keystone excel to go forward without even
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getting a permit. he doesn't even want them to have to go through the process he's so intent on fast tracking this pet project of pet oil and the sponsors at that time took four times as much money from oil and gas than the average representative. they're not doing what the american public wants. >> cenk: of which i say, of course. they should late this the most. >> exactly. >> cenk: lena.moffatt. thank you for joining us. >> i appreciate it. >> cenk: when we come back, north korea said they're ready to go to war against us and they've put out funny propaganda videos against us. but it won't be funny if they put out the missiles. >> the north korea video shows the white house in the crosshairs. the u.s. capitol blowing up.
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>> cenk: we're back on "the young turks." if there is one thing that north koreans like to do is sable rattling. and they're doing it again. they are saying that we could launch nukes against the united states at any time. now they've got a new young leader, and perhaps he's different than his father or grandfather. who knows, maybe he's more bell ledge rent if that's possible. >> north korea president said if any provocation by the north will be met by a strong military
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response. it comes from threats from north korean cleared kim jong-un. while urging calm, the usa is showing it's military support for the seoul government. the government deployed two f-22 seattle fighter jets as part of joint military drills. this is just days after two capable seattle bombers ran a drill 50 miles from north korea's border. >> cenk: you know, i've never seen a north korean news clip where they wouldn't emotional crying screaming, i got it, you're mad. we moved warships to the area and it looks like this is an oil rig. but it's not. it's a fbx one, a sea-based radar platform. that looks fancy. so we are obviously getting ready just in case the north koreans are serious.
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let's go to jim walsh an expert in international security and researcher at mit's security studies program. my whole life i've seen north korea say we're coming, you better watch out. should i take this one any more seriously or is it the same as usual. >> two things, one, the funneled fundamentals have not changed. by that i mean north korea will not start a war. is it engageing in extreme behavior? yes. both south korea and the united states independently are stronger than north korea, and together obviously they would be much stronger militarily than north korea. but the south korea is not going to start a war directly. they might win. if they do win they would lose a
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piece of seoul in the process. the north koreans would use their arrest artillery and break off a piece of seoul. i do worry that we have a bunch of new leaders the south korean leader is knew, the north korean leader is new. it could town out to be serious. if people keep their act together, then no. but if people make mistakes we could have a serious alter altercation with north korea. >> cenk: they have sunk ships before, and if they do it again we could have a very serious situation on our hands. as you say pretty much almost by accident. and it's tough to know where to draw the line with north korea. now let's say we go do to war jim, how much damage can north
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korea do? i remember in the old soviet union days, my co-host, ben mankiewicz his dad would say they're bad and stuff but i wouldn't worry about them economically because they can't get the toilets to flush but at the same time they have these weapons that they can fire. how much damage could they do? >> they're not a direct threat to the united states of america. they don't have a missiles or other military capability to deliver something to the u.s. but let's set that aside. what they have is the capability with median rank missiles to hit targets like japan like south korea, and there are 20,000 plus u.s. military serving with south koreans forces in in and near seoul. if something were to happen, the concern most people would have is that north korea which has a lot of military pieces near the
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dmc, they would start to use those military pieces and americans would be at risk there. if there was a larger war those assets in japan would be brought to bear. so people would be in harm's way then. let me circle back to what you said at the top and that is north korea doing something and then the south korean leader feeling as a new leader feeling like she would have to respond or she would lose credibility. that's absolutely right. what is compounded in the situation, why we're doubling down on this is that since that last couple of incidents a couple of years ago south south korea has also changed it's military doctrine. in the old days they used to say if you hit us we'll hit you back. that's called tit for tat. under the new doctrine they say if you hit us we'll hit three times harder. we'll put those with officers who are forward deployed. they're taking different steps in an attempt to deter north
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korea. but the result is if any little thing would happen you have the greater chance of it escalating not only because of changes in north korea but also changes in south korean doctrine as well. >> cenk: you're beginning to scare me a little bit. i'm serious. i'm worried everybody is always concerned about the u.s. i don't think they can get the u.s. as you said, but i'm worried about millions of people who live in south korea and japan who can get hurt, killed. talk to me how long it would take to wipe out the north koreans what are we looking at two weeks two months, two years? >> yeah, well, it's not two years. i think we can safely say that. we should also point out that that--these plans are evolving. last week the u.s. and south korea signed a new agreement of some kind meant to improve or change the way they would handle provocations going forward. this is an agreement that was just signed last week.
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i made calls to colleagues in seoul about it, and the agreement is classified. there are no public documents about what the nature of this agreement is. it seems to suggest that the u.s. would enter into some sort of response into provocation earlier than otherwise would have been the case. frankly those war plans are classified, and we don't know what they're going to look like, and it depends on the north korean people and the north korean regime. it's one of those things that could crack quickly or the korean war was not an easy war to fight. it's going to be somewhere in between those two things but we don't know what they are and those plans are classified. >> cenk: i'm not going to let you get away with an intelligence nuance answer here on television. what is the percentage of chance we go to war? go. >> percentage of chance that we gogo to war? pulling it out of a hat 5%, 10%, that sounds small but
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listen, war is a big deal. wars don't happen every day. a 5% or 10% chance of war given the stakes and consequences. that's not trivial. that number is too high. we're calling it a process where policies aren't working. we've got to find a different way to get at this. there was some good news. north korea had a meeting of its party congress appointed an economic reformer that had previously been sort of put out to pasture and so there is some suggestion today just as of today that perhaps all of this bellicose rhetoric was meant to rally the korean people in preparation of economic reform. it's a theory but it's better news over what has been a tough couple of weeks. >> cenk: jim walsh, thank you for joining us. by the way the correct answer on how quickcally we would topple the north korean
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government is two weeks. >> i'll write that down. >> cenk: hopefully we'll never find out and if we do, those two weeks would be devastating in the human toll in asia. thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> cenk: now when we come back, c.i.a. might have ground-breaking new officer. she's a woman and that's unprecedented. she was also the one involved with the torture program and destroyed the torture tapes--oops. we'll does that when we come back. >> it took three hours destroying 92 videotapes showing being water-boarded 83 times.
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] 676. >> cenk: we're become on "the young turks." the good news the c.i.a. is doing something unprecedented. they're considering a woman in top position of their
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clandestine office, leading it, it turns out she was heavily involved in the torture program and one of two people who signed off on destroying the torture tapes that we had. there was a report about this back in 2010 that shed light on this issue. >> according to these documents internal c.i.a. e-mails and memos, it took just over three hours to destroy 92 videotapes showing suspected al-qaeda leader being water-boarded 83 times. that number, a violation of what was approved by the bush administration. in 2000, days after the secret c.i.a. prisons were exposed, the head of the clandestine services jose rodriguez gave the order to get rid of the tapes. according to this memo, he said that out of context they would make us look terrible. it would be devastating to us.
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>> cenk: right, actually within context they make you look terrible. that's why you destroyed it, which was completely illegal but of course president obama does not look backwards but only forward: the only person who signed the memo ordering the destruction of those tapes was jose rodriguez's chief can of staffof staff,the woman that they're thinking of promoting. the woman had been in charge of the c.i.a.'s clandestine services she was officer with broad support inside the agency but she also helped run the c.i.a.'s detention and interrogation programs after the september 11th 2001 attacks on the 2005 decision to destroy videotapes of prisoners being tortured. it's called that because it is
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torture. you know something isn't working when you tried 82 times and you still don't get the answer you want so they water-boarded him for 83 times. it's sadistic and illegal and people should be in prison for it but instead they're getting promotion. let's bring in lindsay moran. her book, "blowing my cover: my life as a c.i.a. spy." you must be happy that they're promoting a woman. but on the other hand they couldn't find another woman in the c.i.a. who was qualify for this position or was she being promoted because she had all the internal support for all the cover up she did for all the other c.i.a. officers. >> i don't know, when i heard the news that a woman was being considered for head of the clandestine service i thought great. when i found out that she was really instrumental and an early advocate of the torture program but also instrumental in
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destroying the tapes documenting the torture program i felt this was one step forward ten steps back because i really feel like that that program actually has done almost irreparable harm to our national security. i would really hope that the agency would be moving away from that and not having as head of the class clandestine service it really trickles down from above. the person who is head of that, it's an important position. they define the culture of the clandestine service. it's disappointing to me as someone who is an advocate of this program. >> cenk: if they confirm held cement yes we were in favor of torture. we're not going to punish anybody. we're going to promote them etc. but they said i'm not going to make the decision by myself but
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by committee. how unprecedented is that. >> that's never been done before. i see it as a cop out. you're head of the c.i.a. that's part of your job is naming the head of the clandestine service under you. brennan seems to be taking a poll of his buddies at the c.i.a. or seeing how this is going to play out politically. now on the other hand it's hard for brennan, brennan was basically given a second chance to dissociate himself from this torture program. so it would be kind of hard for him not to elevate her not to promote her saying that she was involved in this program which from what i understand everybody at the c.i.a. up the chain of command knew about this program. what's most disturbing to me is the fact that she not only knew about it, and didn't speak out against it but was actually an advocate of it. and then was instrumental, as i said, in destroying the tapes.
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it doesn't smack of a coverup. it is a coverup. ostensibly the only person at the c.i.a. who vocally spoke out against the torture program was john carica is who is now serving time in prison. it's a devastating irony the one person who didn't break the law in the geneva convention is actually doing time in jail. >> cenk: well, anybody who said that obama is not pro torture really has to answer for this. it seems that the one guy who was against torture obama put in prison not bush but obama put in prison. the last question for you lindsay, is this. what is the dynamic of the c.i.a. that leads to this? is that once they come in, they were pro torture all along or do they feel like hey all these guys were tortured, so i have to earn credibility by saying yes rah-rah, torture. i'll protect all of you? >> well, i think at the end of
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the day we're seeing a woman promoted who is going to be one of the guys, and that's rewarded with the c.i.a. >> cenk: that's unfortunately how it works. unless, you yeah, you actually say maybe we should follow the law, you're a goner. it's very disappointing. lindsay, as always, great expertise. we appreciate it. >> thanks. >> cenk: we have a bunch of controversies we have to sort out. including whether cbs was responsible with how they dealt with an devastating injury over the weekend. should we show the tape, should we not. when we come back. i felt like my feet were going to sleep. it progressed from there to burning to like a thousand bees that were just stinging my feet. [ female announcer ] it's known that diabetes damages nerves. lyrica is fda approved to treat diabetic nerve pain.
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[ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: apparently the supreme court is in session.
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so we've got a couple of controversial topics to discuss. the court has justice ana kasparian and we have reverend jayar jackson over here, and hermela aregawi, a new justice of the court. tell us about the story. what have we got. >> the first story is that louisville played duke as part of the ncaa regional finals. and in that player kevin ware broke his leg in two parts. >> with six and a half minutes remaining in the first half, louisville guard kevin ware landed awkwardly after contesting a shot in front of his own bench. >> that is a gruesome looking injury of kevin ware. >> the good news, the cardinals did win thank god and kevin
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ware did have a successful surgery. but should anyone be showing an uncensored version of the injury injury. >> cenk: they tweeted out a picture and then i saw it. then i didn't want to watch the video. me personally, i didn't want to watch the injury. should they show the injury? sure yeah. >> there is a line that you can draw. when it happens live, whoever was looking at that particular point in time saw it any way. but as far as replays i think that's the question. when you show a little distance warn viewers look away, we're going to show it. but when you look at it 18 times, and then different angels andangelanyangles and then
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you look how it flopped, that was exploiting the player. >> you make a choice to go see that. you can't blame them for putting it all together. >> that's why we have the internet. it's one thing to air something on television, and sure you can warn people but maybe people don't understand how gruesome it really is. also you have to really evaluate the news value of it. so a guy broke his leg in two different places, okay, do we have to see that? is that getting some sort of message across? i remember on "the young turks" we showed footage of what was happening to the syrian rebels, that was gruesome, graphic but there was a value in showing that. but in this case it's like tragedy penn porn, look what happened? >> maybe one replay. >> maybe one replay, and you warn people and make it clear but i think people are going over board on this.
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>> i'm torn by this, i think it's goofy. the wardrobe malfunctioned, this is ten times worse. i don't care if they see janet jackson's nipple, but the flip side, you ban it, and then they go to the internet and see it any way. >> that's why the internet was created. >> a lot of times in sports we don't want to see the negative side of sports but this is a reality. it's part of any sport. there is a risk of injury. when this happens we don't want to see it, buts real. it happens. >> and should they give guaranteed scholarships, etc. we'll take a vote. should we show it once. >> yes. >> with a replay. >> cenk: you guys win. i don't want to cop out, i vote yes.
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>> with a warning. >> warning. watch. >> they're shaken up because of how gruesome. looks. >> it's just visibly, the team completely shaken. >> you saw it on the backside. his leg came under him as he landed and if you can bear to watch it, take a look, but it's a terrible-looking injury. >> cenk: as we were doing that i was screaming once, only once. >> that's the way we edited the video. sorry about that. moving on, according to the dcd the diagnose of adhd has gone up in the last decade among 4 to 17 years olds. 11% of all school children have been diagnosed with it and among boys it's worse almost 20% of school-aged boys have been diagnosed with adhd. this is aen is an increase, what do
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you think, is this an overdiagnoses? yes. >> cenk: here's the thing. a lot of times there are things that we didn't recognize before. so they get reported because we now recognize it. but over all i'm with these guys. we're way overdiagnosing it. i think there is financial incentives to overdiagnoses and the kid has an incentive. i'm not an idiot. i wasn't lazy. i'm adhd. >> i went to the doctor, also a primary care physician she said, hey you know, i'm also a primary care physician if you need pills or anything. and like that was basically telling me, if you need adderal or anything, bada bing, bada boom. >> cenk: she actually said bada bing, bada boom? she wasn't from "the sopranos"?
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>> it's not a judging the parent type of things but they have these distractions. they're going to be kids. particularly poise who are off the walls. >> it's okay. your kid is hyper. this is what they do. let them run the energy out. i'm not saying that it doesn't exist but calm down, stop running to the doctor and the doctors will find something who says, take this. >> cenk: and they're incentivized to give out those pills. adhd is real. it does exist. i have a friend who is clearly adhd. but everyone cam down out there. be really, really sure before you start your kids on pills. so i think the courts' agreed to that. >> we're unanimous.
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>> cenk: see, you got to listen to us. one final devastating point when we come back.
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